Comments on: Fear and the Jehovah’s Witnesses http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/ Professional Speaker & Author of Cults: How They Work, Losing The Faith Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:14:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fifilou http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-162 Fifilou Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:18:25 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-162 Robin, I agree there are a number of things i do not agree with the way JW doctrines, nothing wrong with their morals point of view but every thing is wrong when it is driven and motivated by fear. Biblically we were not given the spirit of fear but the spirit of love that drives out all fear, life is to be leaved and enjoyed i Do not believe that God can have so much hate and restrictions he gave us a free will not for us to go around sinning but to know that we are free and with love can follow his commands. Jesus Christ died on the Cross for all of our sins Jew , JW, Pentecostal and charismatic Christians whatever you are....... He did not choose colour or religious back round i believe that even Gay People will go to heaven, after all who are we to judge. Mass media is hell on its own if television was educational and informative i would support it but the life style it promotes is HELL! Robin, I agree there are a number of things i do not agree with the way JW doctrines, nothing wrong with their morals point of view but every thing is wrong when it is driven and motivated by fear. Biblically we were not given the spirit of fear but the spirit of love that drives out all fear, life is to be leaved and enjoyed i Do not believe that God can have so much hate and restrictions he gave us a free will not for us to go around sinning but to know that we are free and with love can follow his commands. Jesus Christ died on the Cross for all of our sins Jew , JW, Pentecostal and charismatic Christians whatever you are……. He did not choose colour or religious back round i believe that even Gay People will go to heaven, after all who are we to judge. Mass media is hell on its own if television was educational and informative i would support it but the life style it promotes is HELL!

]]> By: Wayne Munro http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Wayne Munro Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:43:17 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-139 Hi Robin I finally got around to the webpage we spoke about at breakfast a few months ago. www.bounceback.co.za. Hi Robin
I finally got around to the webpage we spoke about at breakfast a few months ago. http://www.bounceback.co.za.

]]> By: Nicholas _________ http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-92 Nicholas _________ Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:02:17 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-92 Hi There Robin, Not to stray too far from the issues at hand however, I am quite sure that I am in love with a JW who has been 'shunned' for living with her ex etc. I don't have any issues with the JW's except that they seem extraordinarily judgmental, for example I spoke to an elder involved in the local JW church to get some insight into joining the sect. The reason I would become a JW is purely on the stance that this girl (Janine) is looking for security, and in order for her not to be looked at in a light of wrong I would need to become a JW in order to legitimately go out with her. I think morally I turned out fine despite being an atheist from birth, so I don't think a persons moral standing is inherent of religion - religion or lack there of is an easy excuse. I think all in all my point is the following: - religion should bring people together not enhance segregation - religion has very little to do with moral standings I love this girl and thus am prepared to through my self into a stuff up however I would just like to say I have been reading your blog and it is a scary prospect I am delving into however again I fear as a result of the one sidedness of the JW beliefs that this is the only option. - I will however continue to follow your blogs mate. Regards, Nick Hi There Robin,
Not to stray too far from the issues at hand however, I am quite sure that I am in love with a JW who has been ‘shunned’ for living with her ex etc. I don’t have any issues with the JW’s except that they seem extraordinarily judgmental, for example I spoke to an elder involved in the local JW church to get some insight into joining the sect. The reason I would become a JW is purely on the stance that this girl (Janine) is looking for security, and in order for her not to be looked at in a light of wrong I would need to become a JW in order to legitimately go out with her.
I think morally I turned out fine despite being an atheist from birth, so I don’t think a persons moral standing is inherent of religion – religion or lack there of is an easy excuse.

I think all in all my point is the following:
- religion should bring people together not enhance segregation
- religion has very little to do with moral standings

I love this girl and thus am prepared to through my self into a stuff up however I would just like to say I have been reading your blog and it is a scary prospect I am delving into however again I fear as a result of the one sidedness of the JW beliefs that this is the only option. – I will however continue to follow your blogs mate.

Regards,

Nick

]]> By: Robin Jackson http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Robin Jackson Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:04:05 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-89 Thank you Vanessa! Your opinion and comments are much appreciated. Thank you for calling me a Twit because you may follow me on twitter at http://twitter.com/robin76. I was a Jehovah's Witness for 25 years and I think that would constitute more than enough experience to talk about the Jehovah's Witnesses.(Oh,yes! You are not one!) As for the point you make about me being sad, lonely, and miss having some religious substance in my life; you can't imagine how far from the truth you are. I have been a much happier person since I left the JWs.Oh and did I mention they have enormous bloodguilt on their hands for their blood doctrine and refusal to allow their members to have organ transplants previously. Me thinks you should do a bit more research before they pull the wool over your eyes. Robin Jackson Thank you Vanessa! Your opinion and comments are much appreciated. Thank you for calling me a Twit because you may follow me on twitter at http://twitter.com/robin76. I was a Jehovah’s Witness for 25 years and I think that would constitute more than enough experience to talk about the Jehovah’s Witnesses.(Oh,yes! You are not one!) As for the point you make about me being sad, lonely, and miss having some religious substance in my life; you can’t imagine how far from the truth you are. I have been a much happier person since I left the JWs.Oh and did I mention they have enormous bloodguilt on their hands for their blood doctrine and refusal to allow their members to have organ transplants previously. Me thinks you should do a bit more research before they pull the wool over your eyes.

Robin Jackson

]]> By: Vanessa http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Vanessa Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:50:15 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-87 Robin, I am sorry to say but you are a TWIT. Dont quote from famous historical figures about nothing to fear - how about AIDS, rape of babies, drugs, satanism, violence against woman, children, animals, Porn. There has been NO progress in the this secular world that we live in, we wear smart clothes, we live in the electronic age, we think we know it all - and NO ONE IS HAPPY and everyone is SEARCHING for something to fill their shallow, empty lives with.. I am not a JW, but admire their guts to go out there and try and give people HOPE and TELL PEOPLE THERE IS NO HELL- only the hope of a better world. Methinks you protest too much and are probably SAD. Lonely and miss having some religious substance to your life which gave you the belief there was something better. This blog is not going to fulfill your life and stop using to to look for recognition on what is a very shallow and one-sided subjective viewpoint. - Go and do some good instead of spreading malicious kodswhallop. Robin, I am sorry to say but you are a TWIT. Dont quote from famous historical figures about nothing to fear – how about AIDS, rape of babies, drugs, satanism, violence against woman, children, animals, Porn. There has been NO progress in the this secular world that we live in, we wear smart clothes, we live in the electronic age, we think we know it all – and NO ONE IS HAPPY and everyone is SEARCHING for something to fill their shallow, empty lives with.. I am not a JW, but admire their guts to go out there and try and give people HOPE and TELL PEOPLE THERE IS NO HELL- only the hope of a better world. Methinks you protest too much and are probably SAD. Lonely and miss having some religious substance to your life which gave you the belief there was something better. This blog is not going to fulfill your life and stop using to to look for recognition on what is a very shallow and one-sided subjective viewpoint. – Go and do some good instead of spreading malicious kodswhallop.

]]> By: candice http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-49 candice Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:42:01 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-49 I am not a J. W. but I have to admit that Jehovahs witnesses have good standing morals. What is with all this negativity tawords them? I am not a J. W. but I have to admit that Jehovahs witnesses have good standing morals. What is with all this negativity tawords them?

]]> By: candice http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-48 candice Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:40:49 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-48 I am not a J. W. but I have to admit that Jehovahs witnesses have good standing morals. What it with all this negativity tawords them? I am not a J. W. but I have to admit that Jehovahs witnesses have good standing morals. What it with all this negativity tawords them?

]]> By: tom sheepandgoats http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-45 tom sheepandgoats Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:45:55 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-45 <i>"They fear the influence of mass media and its ability to subvert the young with song, dance, fashion, alcohol, drugs, sex and freedom.</i>" Anyone in their right mind does. Few will maintain that the mass media have had a fine effect on humanity over the last few decades. “They fear the influence of mass media and its ability to subvert the young with song, dance, fashion, alcohol, drugs, sex and freedom.”

Anyone in their right mind does. Few will maintain that the mass media have had a fine effect on humanity over the last few decades.

]]> By: telson http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-38 telson Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:24:48 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-38 Jehovah’s witnesses are heretical cult and this article tells it very assertively. http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/jehovaswitnesses Jehovah’s witnesses are heretical cult and this article tells it very assertively.

http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/jehovaswitnesses

]]> By: Mico http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Mico Fri, 15 May 2009 05:03:47 +0000 http://robinjackson.co.za/2009/05/fear-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/#comment-22 I was a JW for 20 years. I came into the religion. I raised children in the faith, today, none of us are JWs. However, I know it was not because of fear that I became a JW nor was it fear that caused me to stay in the faith. I have forwarded this article to my adult children and have asked them to give me their opinion on the thought of fear and being raised a JW. Hopefully, they will tell me what they think. They normally do! :}} I became a JW because of the hope of the resurrection and the thought of living in a paradise earth. This has nothing to do with fear. Why I left, I will not delve into here. If there is fear, it can be compared to the fear of the traditional religious faiths that use the idea of being tormented in a hellfire, that is scary! The nightmares from the bible stories book, I am sorry the writer experienced that. I do not remember my children saying this to me, so hopefully, they will let me know. Although Armageddon is seen as God's war against the nations instead of the nations warring against each other, I see no difference in other Christian faiths whose doctrine refers to Armageddon. If the JWs are a cult because of their teaching of Armageddon, then all of the Christian faiths are a cult since the teaching of Armageddon is based on the readings of the bible book of Revelation. The majority of mankind has this fear. There is a doomsday clock and reference to it has been linked to Armageddon. So, perhaps, the doomsday clock and those who pay attention to it are operating a cult based on fear. As for questioning leadership, I will not disagree with this view. The summation, can be applied to many religious sects, even when a secular religion is not considered a cult. Does it matter that the JWs are a cult or are not a cult? Apparently, this is important to some but not all. There is fear in the religion, but there is fear is all religions. I was a JW for 20 years. I came into the religion. I raised children in the faith, today, none of us are JWs. However, I know it was not because of fear that I became a JW nor was it fear that caused me to stay in the faith.

I have forwarded this article to my adult children and have asked them to give me their opinion on the thought of fear and being raised a JW. Hopefully, they will tell me what they think. They normally do! :}}

I became a JW because of the hope of the resurrection and the thought of living in a paradise earth. This has nothing to do with fear. Why I left, I will not delve into here.

If there is fear, it can be compared to the fear of the traditional religious faiths that use the idea of being tormented in a hellfire, that is scary! The nightmares from the bible stories book, I am sorry the writer experienced that. I do not remember my children saying this to me, so hopefully, they will let me know.

Although Armageddon is seen as God’s war against the nations instead of the nations warring against each other, I see no difference in other Christian faiths whose doctrine refers to Armageddon. If the JWs are a cult because of their teaching of Armageddon, then all of the Christian faiths are a cult since the teaching of Armageddon is based on the readings of the bible book of Revelation. The majority of mankind has this fear. There is a doomsday clock and reference to it has been linked to Armageddon. So, perhaps, the doomsday clock and those who pay attention to it are operating a cult based on fear.

As for questioning leadership, I will not disagree with this view. The summation, can be applied to many religious sects, even when a secular religion is not considered a cult.

Does it matter that the JWs are a cult or are not a cult? Apparently, this is important to some but not all. There is fear in the religion, but there is fear is all religions.

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